This podcast is of an interview held on August 18, 2006 with Susan Patrick, the President and CEO of NACOL, the North American Council for Online Learning. Susan was formerly the Director of Educational Technology for the US Department of Education. Steven Glyer, Director of Education Technology for the Newport-Mesa Unified School District in California, conducted this interview. This conversation centered on online learning in the United States. It runs 32 minutes and 15 seconds.